On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 18:50 +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: > I'm sure there is some documentation i read on this, but as the testing release has been brought up, > thought i'd take advantage of the knowledge from you guys who have been using it a lot. > > On sidux running Debian sid, I don't know how you are running Sidux AND Debian Sid. > it was recommended to do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' regularly (ie, every few > weeks). Is this the case with lenny/sid which is what i installed yesterday. On Sid, I run apt-get upgrade about twice a week, read the output of apt-listbugs and then do the same for dist-upgrade. > > > If so, how frequently would you recommend i do this. And, should this be done using 'apt-get dist-upgrade' Actually, now the command should be aptitude update, aptitude safe-upgrade, aptitude full-update. > > or are there other tools i can use. Synaptic>Reload>Mark All Upgrades>Apply (again with apt-listbugs installed) > I only ask because sidux has 'smxi' which (i'm sure you know anyway) Never ran Sidux, I have no idea what smxi is. > runs a script that makes the process, and troubleshooting, easier for users who aren't as experienced. ehh, apt-listbugs will tell you if you should be afraid or not. READ the results before you say Yes. If you don't understand it, research it out. Failure to comply may result in you breaking your system in half and owning both halves (50/50 Warranty). Like I said, I only broke my system once (and had to wait a week to re-install) doing that. Even then, I just did not read the bug report, had I, I would not have borked it. I learned on Sid (I had evil mentors). Sid is a valid place to learn. It may not be a valid place to run a workstation that needs to be up and running and 100% working. If you like tinkering, run Sid. If you like using a computer for other reasons, you may not want to run Sid. > > Sorry for thread-jacking, but thought it was kinda relevant to the topic. > > Jamie Again, I have never ran Sidux, have not used Knoppix, Mepis or any other Debian spawn but Ubuntu in a few years. I used to use Libranet to install and configure Linux, then I would do a dist-upgrade to Sid. In that case, that worked. I can not speak for any other of the spin-offs. I know Elive is 100% Debian Sid +E17 and am told that there are no issues with syncing with Debian. Seriously, all those other distros have a place and a purpose (we think that Debain should look like this, or have these default tools/software loadout, etc) but they are not good to use as a tool to install Debian. Those days are long since gone (Long live Libranet!). Debian is dead simple to install. It mostly installs sensible defaults that Just Work! (TM). If you want to run Mepis, run it. If you want to run Debian, install Debian. You will avoid The Hell that is Hybrid-system. That is someones idea of what Debian should be/act like mixed in with the Pure Debian config files and something does not play well with something else. All Linux distros will do what all other Linux distros can do. The question is HOW you get there, not IF. If you want Debian Sid, I suggest you run it. If you want FC9, run that. If you like Mepis, run that and do what they suggest to keep your system updated. If these Hybrid systems break, you will have to go to THEIR support pages for help, we will not know the answer. Even Ubuntu differs from Debian in significant ways (for example, there is no inittab, so don't ask US how to change default boot behavior in Ubuntu, ask Ubunutu) even though most of us will "overlook" the user who says "I am running Ubuntu and I can't config NFS" and attempt to assist him/her, we may not know how to fix that issue simply because it is not Debian. HTH -- Damon L. Chesser damon@damtek.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser
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