Re: shuttle disaster
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:17, David P James wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ya know, I've always wondered why Hitler declared war on us. We never
> > did anything to him. He was fighting the Godless Communists, and a
> > significant minority of Americans were anti-Semitic... The usual reason
> > is that we declared war on Japan. Well, heck. He ignored treaties
> > before. Why not ignore the Axis Treaty? It would have kept us out of
> > the war long enough to starve England. Then he could have easily
> > conquored it.
> >
>
> Easily? How? They couldn't manage to invade even when Britain was in the
> weak state that it was in the fall of 1940, never mind later. The Battle
Because of lack of air superiority. My thought was "conquor via treaty
with starving nation".
> of the Atlantic was basically won in 1942 by the British and the
> Canadians before there was any significant American contribution to the
> war, and it is that battle that Germany would have had to have won to
> have been able to "starve England".
I dunno about that...
http://www.navalmuseum.ab.ca/atlantic.html
"Between August 1942 and May 1943, shipping losses and loss of life was
appalling, particularly when compared to relatively small enemy U-boat
losses."
"In May 1943, the battle began to turn in favor of the allies. Loss of
shipping declined significantly and 41 U-boats were sunk during the
month of May alone."
http://www.theworldatwar.com/feature.htm
"Above all the use of aircraft, ... over the Atlantic Gap (now closed by
very long-range B24 Liberator bombers), brought a high level of loss to
the submarine arm."
Hmm, who built all those B-24s, I wonder?
However...
http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/atlantic.html
Even through mid-1942, "Brit. & Canada providing 98% of all escorts".
> The Americans liberated Continental Europe. But they did not save
> Britain. Arguably Canada did, but not the United States.
Oh, and don't forget about Lend Lease & "ships for bases". There's
no getting around it. Face it: GB would have been sunk (pun intended)
without the US.
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