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Re: Bug#899007: bauble: Depends on unmaintained python-gdata



Hi!

On 18/03/2019 08:36, Andreas Tille wrote:
> So we should have strived for this since a long time, right?

well, yes, I think so.  the original author opened this one in 2012:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bauble/+bug/1093035


> Where is your development done? 

https://github.com/Ghini

bauble is also on github.  In October 2015 I had been made owner of the
project (https://github.com/Bauble/bauble.classic).  Soon after that,
the slot 'bauble.web' became occupied and I preferred moving everything
under a new organization.


>> I have not been able to follow all necessary steps to put ghini.desktop
>> in Debian format, I'm sorry.  once there's a well defined package for
>> it, I might be able to keep it up to date, but the initial steps are far
>> beyond my limited ability to comply with strict rules.
> Why not asking for help?

eh, <grin/>, how to say that?  I've not been successful at finding the
right person.  I got some help from, …, I can't remember and I don't
think it's relevant here.  the guy gave me information and hints, but it
was still me who had to follow the Debian rules, and after several
attempts, bouncing back with "not good enough", I gave up.


>
>> Debian Science team?  what is it?
> Well, there might be people who would tell you that a web search could
> be enlightening ;-P - but I'll try with my own words:  

thank you!  I prefer email, and at the moment I have a very fast and
quite expensive connection to the internet, before you know, opening one
single page eats up 5% of my weekly allowance.  I appreciate your text.

I have read the remainder of your email, and I'm looking into your
questions 1 and 2.  possibly short-circuiting, if your "this status"
means "bauble-0.9.x", then you already have my answer to question 2: no,
it's not sensible. 

but let me check and I will come back to you shortly.

ciao,

Mario

> Debian Science is
> a team inside Debian (mailing list in CC) which cares for scientic
> software that has no dedicated team behind (like astro, chemestry, GIS
> etc.)  Its a so called Pure Blend[1] and usually you are well advised to
> join this team if you deal with scientific software.  I'm personally
> very picky to get any software in the field of *micro*biology into
> Debian Med since this team tries to cover all in this field.  However,
> from my perception bauble does not really fit into this.
>
> The Debian Science team has a policy[2] that explains how to do the
> packaging in this team.  For your comfort I have just commited bauble in
> its current state + the fix for its RC bug into Git[3].  I'd volunteer
> to make the packaging fully conform to the recent standards (packaging
> is quite aged :-().  However, since we are in freeze currently the
> changes needed are not really accepted by the release team and thus I
> sticked to a minimum set of acceptable changes.
>
> Now I have some questions for you:
>
>     1. Would you mind testing the status in Git[3] whether this
>        works or not (I have neither any idea nor any interest in
>        this program)?
>     2. Do you think it is sensible to release Buster with this
>        status?
>     If the answer to 2. is
>        "yes" we can stop for the moment if it is
>        "no" lets remove it from testing and proceed with upgrading
>        either to
>        a) latest version of bauble?
>        b) latest version of ghini.desktop (may be there is
>           even a migration path??)
>
> What do you think?
>
> Kind regards
>
>        Andreas.
>
>
> [1] https://www.debian.org/blends/
> [2] https://science-team.pages.debian.net/policy/
> [3] https://salsa.debian.org/science-team/bauble
>  
>> On 17/03/2019 13:05, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
>>> Hello Andreas,
>>>
>>> I gave the package to Mario Frasca, which then orphaned the package:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=903644
>>>
>>> gdata is not the only problem, there are other dependencies (which
>>> seems to be more complex to solve). Additionally as far I know there
>>> is no interest of upstream to continue such package, which I think it
>>> is also reasonable: a web application is a lot better.
>>>
>>> For my point of view, you can put into Debian Science, but possibly we
>>> should let it go.
>>>
>>> ciao
>>>     cate
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17.03.19 18:29, Andreas Tille wrote:
>>>> Hi Giacomo,
>>>>
>>>> the bug log states that the files using gdata have been removed
>>>> upstream[1].  I'd volunteer to commit this package to Salsa in Debian
>>>> Science, apply the needed patch and upload as a team upload if you don't
>>>> mind.  If I will not hear from you soon I assume you are fine with
>>>> the move into Debian Science team.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>>          Andreas.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=899007#15
>>>>


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