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Hi Joerg
We're not claiming that we (= the researchers) will not be able to deanonymize people,
that's an unattainable standard with this survey.
The kind of privacy we are promising is the same you would got from a set of 1-1 interviews
with ethnographers: we will not circulate the information further (including in resulting publications) in a non-aggregated manner.
In addition as we said the researchers involved in Debian will not have access to any
data that could identify respondents.
Ultimately a participant either trusts the researchers involved with the information
given to them to read them, or doesn't. If they don't, they should not answer the survey or maybe answer by not providing any information they don't trust the researchers with.
cheers,
Mathieu
From: Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2023 0:45 To: Mathieu O'Neil <mathieu.oneil@anu.edu.au>; debian-project@lists.debian.org <debian-project@lists.debian.org> Subject: Re: Fresh thread - 2023 Debian Project survey: Sustainability On 17050 March 1977, Mathieu O'Neil wrote:
>>That "likely" is better worded as "for a great number of people >>anonymity will not exist for anyone seeing the real answers". >>Also, that aggregate form would need to somehow mangle the following 3 >>questions up pretty good, I think. >>A03 formal status >>A04 which 3 teams most involved >>A05/A05a which other foss projects involved in >>Those are enough to ditch about any anonymity I think, combine it >>with B01c to make it easy enough for even an AI to find out who the >>submitter is. I might be an extreme example, but for me it would be >>enough to truthfully answer A04 (archive, new-maintainer, salsa) and >>confirm it with A05a putting OFTC..." > All response collected with LimeSurvey will be downloaded to a > password-protected device in the University of Canberra and the data > on LimeSurvey will be deleted after downloading. All the data analysis > will be done locally, no cloud computing will be applied to prevent AI > from obtaining the data. To better prevent reidentification, the raw > data will not be shared to the Debian developers in our research team. > Only aggregated results will be shared with the whole team for > interpretation. Are you an AI, or used one to write this? :) Me mentioning AI was just a sidekick on how bad AI is, but the general point is the *ease* of identifying people answering the question set and that pretending it will be anonymous is a nice wish only. >>B01c only loses when someone works for a real big company. > The reason we kept this question from the 2016 Survey is to > investigate how firms’ engagement in Debian has changed over time, but > all the questions in the survey are voluntary, if you feel > uncomfortable answering any question feel free to skip it. > We could add a sentence in this question like “If you feel > uncomfortable to answer it, feel free to skip it and move on to the > next one”. Would that help? I think the whole questions I mentioned should have something above that the combination of the answers may make it really easy to identify the person answering. -- bye, Joerg |