Le lundi, 17 février 2020, 19.19:02 h CET Sam Hartman a écrit :
> >>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome Charaoui <lavamind@debian.org> writes:
> Jerome> Following the announcement of the DebConf20 location, our
> Jerome> desire to participate became incompatible with our
> Jerome> commitment toward the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions
> Jerome> (BDS) campaign launched by Palestinian civil society in
> Jerome> 2005. Hence, many active Montreal-based Debian developpers,
> Jerome> along with a number of other Debian developpers, have
> Jerome> decided not to travel to Israel in August 2020 for
> Jerome> DebConf20.
>
>
> I'm quite frustrated, disappointed and angry reading the above.
>
> I had expressed a fairly strong discomfort with the anti-DC20 messaging
> I got from the original contact about Montreal.
To offer some contrast, although I can agree such introduction _could_ have
been left out of the announcement email, I find the phrasing to be honest,
transparent, and fair: it is not against Debian, not against DebConf, not
against the DebConf Committee. It is merely explaining in full sight their
reasons to a) not attend DebConf; b) organize that event at that time.
Specifically, I find the announcement OK _because_ the event dates do not
directly conflict with DebConf20's.
> I'm going to take a couple of days to calm down before making any
> decisions, but this is not appropriate messaging in an event that Debian
> supports.
For the record, I disagree that such messaging is inappropriate on debian-
devel-announce@, nor as framing for an event "that Debian supports".
> In particular, we as a project made a decision about where we were
> holding DebConf 20.
I'd rephrase this as "the DebConf committee, as DPL delegates, made a decision
about by whom DebConf20 was to be organized and where; this decision has not
been overriden by a GR" [0,1]. There's nuance away from "we as a project made
a decision".
> The above messaging comes across as a condemnation of what the project
> has decided to do, rather than something that supports our diversity and
> compliments DC20 while supporting those who choose not to attend.
Sam; I think you're overreacting and would encourage you to re-read the full
annoucement mail, and _specifically_ the part that you quoted; it "just"
explains why some people from our community cannot consider attending
DebConf20, and how they converted this constraint into organizing _another_
Debian gathering, at different dates.
Frankly, leaving this reasoning out of the announcement email would have felt
disingenuous; as their unease with regards to DebConf20's location was known
already.
Regards,
OdyX
[0] https://lists.debian.org/debconf-team/2019/03/msg00021.html
[1] Disclaimer: I was a delegate when the decision was taken.Attachment:
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