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Re: enforcement first, ask questions later?



I am not a contributor, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

I was planning on becoming a contributor to Debian recently and joined
the mailing list in preparation for doing so. And then I saw
everything that was happening.

It made me nervous that people could be accused and removed without
any public process, opportunity to collect evidence, opportunity to
face their accuser, presumption of innocence, and other basic human
rights guaranteed, at least, by the US Constitution. (I don't know
about the Debian constitution.) Also, when I saw someone who appeared
to be in a position of leadership asking for evidence of wrongdoing
*after* making a decision to ban someone, that was...chilling, as
though there was a vendetta that was fulfilled and that the leader was
looking for justification of such a vendetta.

For myself, I do not have great social skills and cannot read subtle,
between-the-lines, subtle messages, especially through the medium of
email. I could see a future where, if I joined Debian, I might make an
innocent mistake and not realize it until I was removed from the
project. That does not sound fun.

So, no thank you. And best of luck to everyone.

Gavin Howard

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:10 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Le 03/02/2019 à 08:38, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
> > [snip]
>
> Daniel.
>
> There are times, not all, but some, when silence is golden.
>
> This is one such time.
>
> We've all heard (rather, read, but let's assume you asserted it so many
> times we've actually heard it).
>
> Forcing people to hear them again multiples times is neither relevant
> nor a sane thing.
>
> This is something you should have realized by yourself.
>
> Just quit this behaviour.
>
> --
> Pierre-Elliott Bécue
> No need to reply, I won't bother to read.
>


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