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Re: Another quik/beige G3 boot attempt



On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 01:24:25PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote:
> > On 12 Jul, this message from Simon Vallet echoed through cyberspace:
> > >> I don't really believe changing load-base makes a difference ...
> > > 
> > > the NetBSD people say that this may help :
> > > http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/faq.html#ofw-claim-failed
> > 
> > I'm not sure all their OF explanations are correct. 
> 
> I guess you were both right : I tried many possible combinations of load-base/real-base, with no success...
> 
> > > don't know if it is the same under Linux, thoug.
> > 
> > There won't be any difference on the OF side... OF isn't changed by the
> > OS :-)
> 
> Of course, but I can remember I had to change the real-base on an older mac because the kernel was too big (OF was not changed, but affected)
>   
> > I have no idea, I'm lucky enough to not need BootX, and have gotten rid
> > of MacOS...
> 
> Maybe I'll have to keep a MacOS partition :-(, but I still want to try some things :
> - in OF, when I 'dev' to '/pci/mac-io/ide@20000' (first ide) and 'ls' there, i get the following :
> /disk@0,0
> /disk@0,0
> and I would have expected:
> /disk@0,0 (master)
> /disk@1,0 (slave)
> 
> could this confuse quik ?

Seems suspicious. Could one of the disks have a jumper in the wrong
place, making it behave as master instead of slave? Would it help to
remove some hardware?

> 
> - do the limitations listed there :
> http://mike.quintero.staff.noctrl.edu/slackintosh/index-2002-07-12.html
> still apply ?

- quik can load a kernel from within /boot
- it cannot use symlinks
- ext3 works
- I believe the size limitation, especially considering quik's
  use of a hard coded memory map. I can load this 2.4 kernel with quik:

-rw-r--r--    1 root     root      3639229 Jun 8 20:50 vmlinux-2.4.18-newpmac

I can't confirm or deny on the other restrictions listed.

BTW, I don't think the 2.4.19 and 2.4.20 kernels in the archive work
for pmac yet.

> - I noticed the presence of a quik-1.3.1.tar.gz  at http://www.cpu.lu/~mlan/ftp/
> Is this version still pertinent ? I use quik 2.0... could the changes have break something ?

That is the potato version. There were bug fixes, listed in its
changelog. And I think the G3 was not even available when it was
done. But it couldn't hurt to try it ...

> I just want to be sure to try everything before using BootX...
> 
> Simon
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