Ok I am liking maildir so far. What shell mua support maildir? I am used to pine, but I can learn. We don't offer shell but the request is there. Any new users will have to learn what I give them :) TIA ----------------------------------------------------- Jaysen O'Dell Oatka Data Solutions Technical Support -- <tech@oatka.net> AcornWorld Internet Services System Administrator <sysadmin@acornworld.net>