I'm wondering if ppp is in a usable enough state that I would be able to use irc or icq with it? Also how much of the pthreads implementation is finished? I want to try tekNap on hurd, but it needs pthreads. ===== James Morrison University of Waterloo Computer Science - Digital Hardware 1B __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/