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Re: Default font: Transition from DejaVu to Noto



On 2023-09-12 at 02:28, Fabian Greffrath wrote:

> Hi Wanderer,
> 
>> Rather than discussing only Noto vs. DejaVu, is there any
>> possibility of reintroducing Bitstream Vera as a default-font
>> option (even if with a low priority), for systems which have that
>> installed?
> 
> can you even see a difference between Bitstream Vera and DejaVu? The 
> latter should be identical to the former, but with wider glyph 
> coverage.

The fact that I am not sufficiently certain about my answer to that
question is the reason why I had not previously replied since Gunnar
pointed out the connection.

When I was flailing about after the introduction of Noto as first
preference, one of the steps I wound up taking appears to have been the
removal of the fonts-noto package. If that had been enough to restore
the look I was going for (as presumably would have been the case if
DejaVu were enough to provide that look), then presumably I would not
have felt the need to keep digging and experimenting, much less to have
gone so far as a user-profile custom copy of 60-latin.conf in order to
reintroduce Bitstream Vera. Unfortunately, six months or so later, my
memory of the specifics of what I did or how I reacted at each stage of
the experimenting is not clear enough for me to claim that I can in fact
see a difference between the two.

In looking at depictions of DejaVu glyphs and Bitstream Vera glyphs
online, I have seen apparent inconsistencies; some such depictions I
found seem at least superficially identical, but I found at least one
case where I saw visual differences that I suspect I would find
off-putting if used in "production" rendering.

I have been considering how best to test this in something like a live
environment, and have not yet settled on something that seems both
sufficiently doable in my setup and also sufficiently likely to produce
accurate results about my observations.

If I can find such a method, and it does show that I see differences,
then I will probably return and report about that. If I do not see
differences, then I may either return and report that (and apologize for
the noise, and probably drop the custom config file for the future), or
just remain silent to avoid adding further noise. If I cannot find such
a method, then I will probably remain silent - and continue using the
custom config file - until such time as that changes.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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