(Removing -legal, since this is just a total tanget) On Tuesday 05 June 2007 06:20:08 MJ Ray wrote: > Wesley J. Landaker <wjl@icecavern.net> wrote: > > On Sunday 03 June 2007 14:46:12 Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > > > And what about societies without money? "fee" does NOT equal "money". > > > Your "common knowledge" is not my understanding ... > > > > Okay, now I'm really curious. Exactly which "societies without money" > > are you talking about? > > I'll let the PP answer for himself, but mention that money can be seen as > a trick and you can read more about that view in Robert Tressell's book > The Ragged-Trousered Philanthropist, which is PD at Gutenberg; and also > that local exchange trading schemes exist, but would it make something > any less a fee if someone can trade their work as payment? Well, I totally understand the concept of money and how it can be viewed in various paradigms. Of course there have always been local exchange systems and ad hoc trading, etc. But seriously, what real "society" actually exists today that has absolutely no money? Does this same society have computers? Does this really a self-contained society that really does not have money, or is this just a small group inside another society who has decided to -- internally -- pretend like they don't have money[1]? I'm honestly curious, because to my knowledge there is no such society existing on the Earth today. If I'm wrong, hey, maybe I'd like to sign up. =) [1] For example, communes where people work and share together without any fixed payment. But in reality, they have to sell their goods/services into the "real" society around them to e.g. pay for property taxes & buy oil for their windmills, get books to read, and upgrade their harddrives. -- Wesley J. Landaker <wjl@icecavern.net> <xmpp:wjl@icecavern.net> OpenPGP FP: 4135 2A3B 4726 ACC5 9094 0097 F0A9 8A4C 4CD6 E3D2
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