Re: Some blends-dev issues
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0300, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> I'm trying to migrate brdesktop-* to blends-dev structure. Before reporting
> bugs/patches to BTS I would like to discuss some things here:
>
> 1) blends-dev doesn't support specifying archs for packages in
> Depends/Recommends. I've seen that Andreas wrote "...it is included for "all
> archs if available"" in tasks files, but this fails for our purpose. There are
> packages available for both i386 and amd64, but some can't go to our amd64 CD
> image due to the image size (it's bigger). Ok, I can manage it via live-helper,
> but it's a workaround I would not be happy with. I imagine it's a simple
> feature to implement.
I have several remarks first:
1. I plan to rewrite blends-dev to create arch specific metapackages
before the freeze in December. Currently this is one major drawback
of blends-dev that we had to accept with the current build system because
otherwise we would have had to recreate debian/control file in the
build process while beeing online which is not acceptable in Debian
policy. I hope to get this solved soon.
2. Once the rewrite is done we might consider also specifying architectures
as you want. But you might also consider the "Avoids" field which is
described in
http://blends.alioth.debian.org/blends/ap-DevelDescription.en.html#s-blends-dev
I try to keep in mind the arch specification.
> 2) I think /usr/share/blends-dev/rules is repeating work which has been made in
> CDBS. CDBS provides a debhelper rules file very similar to the one from
> blends-dev.
I learned in previous discussions that people mix up the common rules file
for blends with CDBS. While both try to hide common stuff from the user
by using shorter rules files this is the only similarity. CDBS is doing
much more than blends-dev and the comparison is not really valid.
> Also, some blends (like brdesktop) may want to use specific rules
> from CDBS (ex: makefile.mk) which seems to conflict with blends-dev rules. So,
> please consider having a blends.mk rules file in CDBS *only* for specific
> blends stuff rather than maintaining a full-featured rules file.
What exactly do you want to use from makefile.mk? You should know that
you are perfectly free to ignore /usr/share/blends-dev/rules and rewrite
your own rules file instead of including the blends-dev rules. It is
just for your comfort and worked so far for all other blends. If you
are able to specify what exactly is needed I would try to realise this
in the common rules file for sure.
> 3) Please upload 0.6.4.
I've got a report that cdd-dev (the compatibility package) to the old
packages does not install on a clean chroot system. I'd like to fix
this before I upload the next package. I hope to solve this over the
weekend.
> We can't use our autobuilder before it since we use a
> cow chroot where we can't checkout the lastest svn revision. We need that
> version in Debian, which fixes that old debian-* requirement for blends name.
Hope to get this done soon!
> Btw, thanks for fixing it :)
Sure!
Kind regards and thanks for considering blends-dev
Andreas.
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